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Hi Vivian,
It’s great that your little one has learned to roll over. But as you have noticed, this can impact sleep.
Here are a few tips that might help:
- Practice Rolling Over: During the day, help him practice rolling from tummy to back. This can help him become more comfortable and skilled at rolling over, making him less likely to get stuck and upset at night or during naps.
- Adjust the Sleeping Environment: Ensure the crib environment is safe and free of loose items. Using a firm mattress and keeping the crib clear of toys or blankets can prevent any hazards when your baby is rolling around.
- Consider His Sleeping Position: It’s not uncommon for babies to start sleeping on their tummies once they roll over. You mentioned you can’t settle him using the settling pyramid. Are you trying this while he is lying on his tummy, or have you rolled him back onto his back? If you have rolled him back onto his back, would you consider leaving him when he rolls over onto his tummy and using the settling pyramid to help him fall asleep in this position if needed?
- Continue to Pause During Nighttime Disturbances: When he wakes early in the morning and gets upset, it’s great that you’re waiting before intervening. Continuing to give him a chance to self-soothe is key. If he remains upset, gently soothing him or rolling him back might help until he adjusts to this new skill. However, try to avoid creating new sleep associations (like feeding) that might be challenging to break later on.
- Be Patient: This phase should improve as he becomes more comfortable with rolling
I hope that helps,
Emma
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Emma H
AdministratorMay 1, 2024 at 9:20 pm in reply to: 2 month 3 weeks old – suddenly mouths and roots aggressivelyHi Sarah,
My little one is a lot better now. She just caught a virus, got bronchitis, and started to find breathing challenging. She has recovered now, which is great. She is back to her bubbly self!
It’s great that your little one’s starting to settle in the crib with some shushing and patting. Even if he still falls asleep while you’re walking him around, that’s a positive step forward, as this type of sleep association can be easier to modify.
In the coming weeks, try singing a lullaby as you gently walk him around the room, gradually reducing the amount of walking. For example, you might sing to him while walking just once around the room and then put him down in the crib while he’s still awake and use the settling pyramid to help him fall asleep on his own.
It’s also great to hear that he’s beginning to have longer stretches of sleep. Although sleep patterns for babies around 3 months old start to become more predictable, you might still notice quite a bit of variability, which is completely normal as their sleep habits continue to develop.
The timing of feeding before bedtime really depends on your baby. The key is to make sure he doesn’t fall asleep while feeding. If he stays awake during a later feed, that’s fine. However, if he falls asleep during this late feed, moving the feeding to an earlier part of the bedtime routine would be better.
I hope that helps!
Emma
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Hi Maddie,
You’re doing an incredible job navigating the ups and downs of your baby’s sleep patterns! Dealing with hourly wake-ups is certainly tough. She could be going through a growth spurt, especially if you’ve noticed an increase in feeding both in frequency and duration during the day.
Your plan to try for naps in the big cot while remaining flexible with using the pram, car, or contact naps as needed is a good approach. It ensures she gets the rest she needs without too much stress for either of you.
It’s quite normal for babies to take shorter naps as they adjust to a new sleeping environment, so the brief naps in her cot aren’t unusual.
It’s fantastic to hear that your bedtime routine is solidifying! Now that she’s getting used to settling down without needing to feed, it’s the perfect time to introduce the settling pyramid.
Keep up the great work; consistency is key, and I’m confident you’ll start seeing more predictable sleep patterns soon.
Please continue to keep me updated on your progress!
Emma
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Hi Monique,
I’m doing well, and so is the family—thanks for asking!
It sounds like your current routine is working well, especially since your little one isn’t falling asleep during feeding and is awake when you place her in the crib. Therefore, I don’t see a need to move the breastfeeding earlier in the routine.
The main reason to consider adjusting the timing of the breastfeeding to before the bath would be if she were falling asleep while feeding. That could lead to her associating feeding with falling asleep, which might make her dependent on feeding to drift off. Since that isn’t happening with your little one, there’s no need to change your current bedtime routine.
I hope this helps!
Emma
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Hi Monique,
It’s great you have been able to remove the pacifier. Have the overnight wakes started to reduce?
As your little one stays awake for the feed, I wouldn’t say it’s a parent-led sleep prop. As such, I would go back to your previous bedtime routine (breastfed, lights off, going into her room, rocking her, and then placing her in the crib drowsy) as this seemed to be working well.
I hope that helps!
Emma
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Emma H
AdministratorApril 30, 2024 at 2:37 pm in reply to: Do they actually learn before 5-6 months?Hi Anastasia,
I am not quite sure what your doula was referring to when she said their ‘learning center’ isn’t mature until 5 – 6 months. Usually when people refer to the ‘learning center’ in the brain they are referring to executive functioning and this isn’t mature until people are in their early 20s.
She might have been referring to their circadian rhythm, which is more likely. But again circadian rhythm doesn’t teach a baby how to fall asleep. What it does is promote wakefulness during the day and sleep overnight.
Using the settling pyramid teaches your baby how to self-soothe and fall asleep independently – this is something they need to learn through lots of practice. Once they master this skill, they’ll likely continue to apply it unless there are changes in how we interact with them. Consistency in your approach, such as maintaining a stable bedtime routine, is crucial for reinforcing these behaviours.
However, like any behaviour, if we change our response, they may become accustomed to this new method and expect it moving forward. For example, if your little one previously fell asleep on their own but got sick and you started rocking them to sleep, they may get used to that and continue to seek it to fall asleep.
If this does happen, you may need to guide them back to independent sleep, but the good news is that retraining often goes more smoothly the second time around.
But in my experience and with other children I’ve worked with, the settling pyramid has been effective and stuck.
The key is being consistent and predictable.
I hope this helps!
Emma
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Hi Anastasia,
At 3 months babies often discover their hands and love to suck on them! While this is exciting, it can sometimes distract them as they try to fall asleep.
If he is showing the early signs of learning to roll over (covered in the video ‘How to Dress Your Baby for Better Sleep’), it would be a good idea to start transitioning him out of the swaddle. You begin the transition at this point, as you’re less likely to disrupt their sleep if you do this transition gradually and free one arm first before freeing both arms.
If he isn’t yet showing the early signs of learning to roll over, I would continue swaddling him, especially since his sleep routine was recently disrupted after his vaccinations, and he’s just had his first good week. It will be easier to help him relearn how to fall asleep in the crib (using the settling pyramid) if he is swaddled.
Once he gets used to falling asleep in his crib, you can then transition him out of the swaddle, starting with the hand he prefers for sucking.
I hope this helps!
Emma
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Emma H
AdministratorApril 30, 2024 at 1:46 pm in reply to: Restarting the process – just looking for encouragement!Hi Anastasia,
It sounds like you’ve had a challenging few weeks, but it’s great to hear that things are looking up now. It’s completely understandable that you paused the sleep pyramid during this tough period—caring for a baby in discomfort is exhausting.
Another parent in our forum shared a similar experience following vaccinations, where their baby dealt with diarrhoea for about two weeks and was quite unsettled during that period.
It’s great to hear that your little one had a great week.
Since you’ve had a good week, it might be a good time to start reintroducing the techniques in the course. Unfortunately, how long it takes your little one to return to their normal routine can vary. But being consistent will help get them back on track as quickly as possible. So when you feel ready, I recommend you just go straight back to what you were doing before the vaccinations.
Hopefully, that helps!
Emma
P.S – If any other parents have had experience with this please jump in and let us know how long it took your little one to bounce back?
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Hi Maddie,
It sounds like you’ve had a real mix of nights recently, with everything from very challenging stretches to some positive progress.
Moving her to the big cot for naps is a good step, even if the initial results are just short naps. It’s all part of the adjustment process for her to get used to her new sleeping environment. It might feel like a big step now, but it’s beneficial in the long run, especially with the upcoming transition to her own room.
Feeding her to sleep occasionally, especially when out and about, is completely understandable. You’re doing what you need to do to manage the situation and keep her comfortable.
It’s great to hear that she’s starting to get the hang of settling at bedtime without feeding.
As for the settling pyramid and feeding to sleep, yes, there will likely come a point where she understands that sleep time doesn’t always equate to feeding time. It sounds like you’re already making headway with putting her down before she’s fully asleep and helping her get used to her cot. The key is consistency, even if it requires multiple attempts and some patience with the process. It might take a bit of time, but as she becomes more familiar with the routine and the environment, she should start settling more easily.
If you feel ready to you can start trying the settling pyramid now that you have successfully moved the last feed of the day to the start of the bedtime routine.
Also have you and your partner been able to agree on a settling approach for nap and bedtime?
It’s not too optimistic to hope for significant progress in the next few weeks—sometimes, it just clicks for babies after a period of adjustment.
Keep up the great work, and please do keep me posted on how things go!
Emma
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Emma H
AdministratorApril 27, 2024 at 11:12 pm in reply to: Challenges with baby’s sleep routine for 7 month oldHi Jaime,
It’s great to hear that the soothing techniques worked well initially for your baby.
Unfortunately, at seven months old, babies often experience many developmental changes that can impact their sleep, including separation anxiety, teething (which should only be temporary), and major milestones like learning to crawl or stand.
The strategies in the course and the settling pyramid still work for babies beyond 6 months of age. I successfully used the settling pyramid with a 15-month-old (used to being rocked to sleep) to fall asleep in her crib on her own.
The main difference at 7 months is:
– They generally adopt a 3-nap schedule, with the timing of these naps being relatively predictable.
When they’re on a 3-nap schedule, they may stay awake for 2 – 2.5 hours before needing a nap. Generally, the amount of time they can stay awake is often shorter earlier in the day and longer later in the day.
– Bedtime and wake-up times are consistent, occurring in the same 30-minute window.
– Nighttime feedings may vary depending on whether you are breastfeeding or formula-feeding. Breastfed babies might still wake for a feed, whereas formula-fed babies might not.
With your little one, I recommend you continue implementing the strategies in the course:
– Keep the sleeping environment cool, dark, and free from sudden loud noises.
– Combine age-appropriate wake windows with his tired signs and the general pattern of wake, feed, play, and sleep.
– Continue doing the bedtime routine, but you can tweak it slightly. Sometimes, babies develop associations with certain parts of their bedtime routine that can trigger distress if they anticipate what comes next. Plus, as babies grow, they sometimes need a longer wind-down period before they’re ready to sleep. Changing the order of the routine or adding another activity might reduce his reactivity. For example, you might read him a short book as part of the bedtime routine. So his new bedtime routine might start with feeding him in a well-lit room, walking into the bedroom, putting on the sleeping bag, turning off the lights and closing the blinds, turning on the white noise, reading him a bedtime story, and then singing him a song before laying him down in his crib.
– You could use the settling pyramid to help him fall asleep when he is lying down in the crib. If you find that he protests a lot and you feel that staying in the room is too confusing for your little one and upsetting him more, you could consider laying him down in the crib and then leaving the room and do the watch and listen step while watching him on the monitor. So what I did with my daughter in the video titled Live Example: Reading Cues at 5 Months of Age.
I hope this helps,
Emma
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Emma H
AdministratorMay 3, 2024 at 9:43 pm in reply to: 5 month old suddenly screaming and refusing to napHi Emma,
It’s fantastic that you’ve identified your little one’s CMPI and that he is starting to settle better without dairy. Did the person who diagnosed him give you an estimate on how long it might take for dairy to be fully out of his system?
You should find that, once the dairy is completely out of his system, he will be easier to settle and sleep for longer stretches. It might be a good idea to hold off on trying the settling pyramid until his body has fully adjusted to being dairy-free.
It’s great that he’s content when placed in his crib and that he’s comfortable with you shushing and patting him. When you say he’s not responding, do you mean he’s happily looking around the room and playing (indicating he isn’t tired), or that he occasionally cries and is tired but can’t settle to sleep? If it’s the second scenario, is his bedroom dark enough that you can’t read a book? Making the room darker might help him fall asleep more easily and reduce the time you spend shushing and patting him. Babies can take up to 20 minutes to fall asleep, so if he’s content, remember to move back down the pyramid rather than continuing to shush and pat him.
I do have a video on YT that shows you how to teach a bub to roll from his tummy to his back. In this video it also shows you have to roll them over. Here is the link:https://youtu.be/H9O0cPh2bsM
I hope this helps!
Emma
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Hi Elen,
It sounds like moving the nap time later is really helping your little one.
It’s fantastic that you’re giving her a chance to settle herself back to sleep when she cries out during naps. I expect that as she gets used to this new nap schedule, the crying before and during naps will decrease and eventually stop.
She may have cried at bedtime because she wasn’t tired enough to fall asleep. Pushing her bedtime later could be beneficial in ensuring she’s ready for sleep.
As for waking her up at 6:30 am, I recommend sticking with this since it aligns with her natural wake-up time.
The reason behind shifting her nap time later was because she wasn’t falling asleep at 11:30 am, which suggested she hadn’t been awake long enough to build sufficient sleep pressure. By delaying her nap, you’ve increased her morning wake window, allowing her enough time to feel naturally sleepy, and this adjustment also syncs well with the natural dip in her circadian rhythm. Now that she’s napping later into the afternoon, it’s necessary to shift her bedtime back so that she has enough awake time to build up the sleep pressure to fall asleep at bedtime and stay asleep.
Does that make sense?
Emma
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Hi Monique,
Could you update me on what her typical day looks like, including when she naps and for how long?
In your previous message you mentioned that your little one is now 9 months old, and I’m wondering if her frequent early night awakenings might be because she’s ready to drop her third nap. Usually, babies transition from three naps to two sometime between 6 and 9 months, and signs of bedtime resistance can indicate it’s time to adjust their nap schedule. Do you think she might be ready to make this change?
Emma
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Emma H
AdministratorApril 30, 2024 at 8:50 pm in reply to: Baby wakes every 2 – 10 minutes at start of nightHey Monique,
Life does happen!
The past two weeks have been a whirlwind with my older kids on school holidays and my youngest needing a quick trip to the hospital.
It’s great to hear that you’ve made progress with removing the dummy at bedtime and that your little one adapted after a few nights. That’s a big step!
Sucking is indeed a comforting behaviour that can help babies settle down, but it’s not essential for them to fall asleep.
The challenge you’re facing with naps might stem from the fact that sleep pressure is the primary factor guiding your little one to fall asleep. Whereas at night, their circadian rhythm and sleep pressure work together, which helps them fall asleep more easily without a dummy.
It sounds like your little one might just need a bit more time and practice to get used to falling asleep without the dummy during the day. With patience and consistency, I’m confident you’ll see improvements soon.
I hope this helps!
Emma
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Emma H
AdministratorApril 30, 2024 at 2:51 pm in reply to: Challenges with baby’s sleep routine for 7 month oldHi Jaime,
Wow, he is standing up already! That is so impressive! I know it might be challenging for you, but I am very impressed!
Unfortunately, when they learn to stand up, it can make bedtime and naps a little challenging. But here are some strategies which might help:
- Consistency is Key: Continue with a consistent bedtime routine. This consistency helps signal to your baby that it’s time to wind down and sleep, not play.
- Leave the Room: After completing the bedtime or nap routine, if you’re happy to, lay him down, leave the room and complete the ‘Wait, watch, and listen’ step by watching the monitor. If he is tired, the room is dark, and you’re not there, he is less likely to stand up and more likely to fall asleep.
- Use a Sleeping Bag: Sleeping bags can make it slightly more difficult for him to stand up, which might prevent him from doing so in the first place.
- Help Him Lie Back Down: At this age, he might be unable to go from standing to sitting and then lying back down. So, lay him back down when he stands up without much interaction or stimulation. This will show him that it’s not playtime. If he can go from standing to lying back down, there is no need to help him.
- Practice Going From Standing to Sitting to Lying During the Day: You might also practice the lie-down routine during the day, showing him how to go from standing to sitting to lying down. Once he learns how to do this, he will be able to do it independently when he stands up in the crib at night.
- Patience and Persistence: It might take some time, but with patience and persistence, he should learn that bedtime and nap time are for sleeping, not for standing and playing.
I hope that helps!
Emma