Forum Replies Created
-
Emma H
AdministratorFebruary 3, 2026 at 12:31 pm in reply to: Bedtime routine and Settling Pyramid – baby taking a long time to settleHi Lizzie,
I can totally understand why you want to get ahead with your second little one, especially considering how difficult sleep was with your first. It’s fantastic that you’ve already got the course and are putting the strategies into practice!
Before I jump into your questions, I just wanted to mention something that might help put your mind at ease about those tricky evenings.
At 7 weeks, your little one is right in the middle of what’s known as the Period of PURPLE Crying, which is when fussiness tends to peak, especially in the evenings. So if you’re finding that she falls asleep, wakes up, falls asleep, wakes up again, and doesn’t seem to settle into a deeper stretch of sleep, it may not actually be that she’s tired. It could just be that fussy period kicking in, and during this time it’s really common for babies to nap on and off and cluster feed.
It’s worth keeping track of the time she actually falls asleep at night, as that can give you a better idea of her true bedtime. It might be later than you’d expect and that’s completely normal at this age!
Now, let me go through your questions one by one.
1. Is the bedroom too dark?
Given that the room is almost pitch black, you’ve got a couple of options:
- Leave the door slightly ajar – this lets a little light in so you can see her. However, if you’ve got a toddler running around the house, that might make it harder to keep things quiet!
- Use a dim nightlight with a red wavelength – a red light won’t interfere with her developing circadian rhythm the way white or blue light can. Pop the nightlight on the floor rather than at her eye level. That way, you’ll still get a gentle glow in the room so you can see her, but it won’t be shining directly at her.
Either option will let you see when she’s drowsy and do the line-of-sight shushing in the Settling Pyramid without the room being too bright.
2. Am I singing for too long?
I’d suggest singing the lullaby just once through, rather than singing until she looks very drowsy. Here’s a simple routine to try:
- Sing the lullaby once through while holding her
- Then gently rock and pat her in your arms
- Gradually reduce the rocking until you’re just patting
- Then gradually stop the patting so you’re just holding her still
- Once she’s calm in your arms while you’re completely still, lay her down in the cot
- Use the Settling Pyramid from there
The idea behind this is that by gradually reducing the rocking and patting, she’s learning to settle without motion, which makes it much easier to transfer her into the cot. And because she’s already calm (but not fully asleep) when she goes down, the Settling Pyramid is more likely to work smoothly.
You can do this with the lamp on (or nightlight on the floor) so you can actually see how drowsy she’s getting.
3. Tips for minimising the dummy?
Using the dummy as a last resort is a great approach! And the really encouraging sign here is that she’s spitting it out on her own and staying asleep, that tells me she isn’t relying on it to fall asleep, which is fantastic.
If you do notice in the future that she starts waking up every time the dummy falls out, that would suggest she’s becoming more dependent on it, and we’d want to start fading it out. Here’s how you could do that:
- Pop the dummy in at the start of your bedtime routine and let her suck on it while you sing the lullaby
- Continue rocking and patting her in your arms with the dummy in
- Then, as she gets drowsy and you lay her down in the cot, gently slide your little finger between her cheek and the dummy and pop it out
- Use the Settling Pyramid to help her fall asleep from there
If you find that popping the dummy out at that point causes her to escalate, try removing it a bit earlier in the routine, just after you’ve finished singing the lullaby, while she’s calm in your arms and you’re still rocking and patting her. This gives her a little more space between losing the dummy and being put down in the cot, but she still gets the benefit of using it to calm down during the lullaby.
But for now, given that she’s not waking when it falls out, what you’re doing is working well – so there’s no need to change anything just yet!
One last thing – are you using a swaddle with her? If not, it’s definitely worth trying. A swaddle can make the transfer into the cot much smoother because she’ll feel snug and secure, and it can also help the Settling Pyramid work more effectively.
Does this make sense?
Emma
-
Hi Olga,
Firstly, congratulations on the arrival of your little one!
What you’ve described is completely normal at 6 weeks. At this age, most babies fall asleep after feeds and have very short wake windows – sometimes just long enough for a feed and a nappy change before they’re ready to sleep again.
Over the next few weeks, you’ll start to notice him staying awake a little longer after some feeds (not all of them, but definitely some). This happens naturally as he matures, so there’s no need to wake him or try to keep him awake right now.
One thing you can start doing is waking him within a consistent 30-minute window each morning. For example, if you choose 7am, you’d wake him anytime between 7am and 7:30am. This helps his body clock develop and encourages more awake time during the day over time.
I hope this helps!
Emma -
Hi Yanet!
It’s great that you’ve been trying the settling pyramid with your little one!
How long should you persist?
Generally, I’d suggest persisting for around 20 minutes if you have the time and energy. Babies typically fall asleep within 20 minutes, so if she hasn’t settled by then, it’s absolutely fine to stop and settle her to sleep in your arms instead. And honestly, if you’re exhausted after just one attempt, that’s okay too – you can always try again at the next nap or another day.
Why she might be crying as soon as you put her down
Because your little one is used to falling asleep with movement (rocking and bouncing), being placed in a still crib feels very different to her. This is why she cries immediately when you put her down – she’s not used to falling asleep without that motion.
To help bridge this gap, you could start by gradually reducing the movement while she’s still in your arms. Here’s how:
- Complete your sleep routine and end with a lullaby while rocking her
- Once the lullaby finishes, continue rocking for another 30 seconds or so
- Then stop rocking but continue patting her while standing still
- Once she’s calm, stop patting so she falls asleep in your arms without any movement
This helps her get used to falling asleep without motion, which will make the transition to the settling pyramid much easier when you’re both ready.
A few other things to consider
- Start with the easiest sleep times. The first nap of the day and bedtime are generally the easiest times to settle little ones, so you might want to focus your settling pyramid attempts there rather than trying at every nap.
- Check her wake windows. If she’s fighting sleep for 45 minutes, it’s possible she wasn’t quite tired enough when you started. It might be worth tracking when she actually falls asleep to see if her wake windows need adjusting.
- Implement a consistent wake-up time. If you haven’t already, having her wake within a 30-minute window each morning can help regulate her body clock and make settling easier overall.
I hope this helps! Let me know if you’d like to step through any of this in more detail.
Emma -
Hi Aikaterini,
Honestly, your English is amazing, so no need to apologise at all! It does sound like you and your little one have been dealing with a lot these first few months. It’s great that you’ve been able to identify that he’s allergic to milk.
I just have a few questions that will help me understand what’s happening so we can figure out how to help him fall asleep for naps and stay asleep longer overnight.
Feeding:
- Have you been able to find a formula that he doesn’t react to?
- If so, how long has he been on it?
Overnight sleep:
- You mentioned he’s waking more frequently overnight. Can you describe what that looks like? For example, is he waking every two hours, or does he still have a longer stretch of sleep first and then wake two or three times after that?
- What times is he typically waking?
Morning wake-up:
- Have you been able to establish a consistent wake-up time (within half an hour)?
- If so, what time is he currently waking?
Naps:
- How many naps is he having throughout the day?
- How long are these naps, and what time are they happening?
- How long is he generally staying awake between naps?
Sleep routines:
- Can you step me through what his nap and bedtime routines look like? I know you mentioned the pacifier is there but you’re not necessarily using it for sleep, so I’d love to know how you’re currently getting him to fall asleep.
Sleep environment:
- Can you describe what his sleeping environment is like? Is his room cool, dark, and quiet, or is it brighter?
Daytime routine:
- Have you been able to follow a wake-feed-play-sleep routine during the day?
Sorry for all the questions, but it will help me understand what’s happening with you little one and how I can help.
Emma
-
This reply was modified 1 month ago by
Emma H.
-
Emma H
AdministratorJanuary 28, 2026 at 8:49 pm in reply to: 4th month regression + 3rd month BF crisis: help with naps and wake timeHi Laura,
Your English is wonderful, so please don’t apologise!
It sounds like Lia had quite a tough start, but you’ve done an amazing job figuring out what was going on and getting her the support she needed. The improvements you’ve seen are fantastic, and it’s clear you’re doing everything right for her, even if sleep feels a bit chaotic right now.
Regarding her naps:
If Lia is now wanting a longer first nap, I’d absolutely let her have it! What we want to encourage is for Lia to start having two longer naps, so the first and second nap, and then a shorter third nap. The fact that she’s naturally falling into this pattern is fantastic.
With that longer first nap and potentially a longer second nap too, you might find she naturally drops to three naps a day instead of four, and that’s completely fine. If her first nap is around 1.5 hours and her second is similar, she may only need a short 30–45 minute third nap to get her through to bedtime.
If you’d like me to take a closer look, could you please outline her current nap times, when each nap starts, roughly when she wakes, and so on. That way I can see if anything needs tweaking. Sometimes frequent overnight waking can be linked to too much daytime sleep, so it’s worth checking.
Regarding wake time and her rolling:
It’s so exciting that Lia has mastered rolling onto her tummy! It’s really common for babies to get a bit frustrated at first once they learn to roll—they want to do everything at once, like rolling and moving, but their little bodies aren’t quite strong enough yet. The good news is, the more tummy time practice she gets, the stronger and more comfortable she’ll become, and that frustration will ease. So for now, give her plenty of opportunities to roll and play on her tummy, and when she starts getting upset, just pick her up and move on to something else.
I hope this helps!
Emma -
Hi Jessica!
I completely understand why this might feel a little confusing or even worrying, but honestly, what you’re describing sounds like a really positive thing!
Some babies, especially when they’re tired, actually find extra soothing a bit overstimulating. Instead of helping them relax, all that rocking and movement can make it harder for them to wind down. It sounds like your little one is one of those babies who, at sleep time, is basically saying, “Mum, I’m really tired, please lay me down!”
And the fact that she’s found her own way to settle, sucking her thumb and twirling her hair, is great! She’s developed her own self-soothing technique, which is a really great skill for her to have.
The key thing to remember is that she responds beautifully to your cuddles and comfort at other times of the day. That tells you everything you need to know. Your soothing absolutely works, and she feels loved and secure. It’s just that at sleep time, when she’s really tired, she prefers to be in her cosy bed rather than being rocked.
So try not to worry! You’re doing a fantastic job, and your little one is simply communicating what she needs.
So keep doing what you’re doing.
Short song, then into bed.
I hope that helps put your mind at ease!
Emma
-
Emma H
AdministratorJanuary 22, 2026 at 4:50 pm in reply to: Early morning rising and short nap helpHi Annie,
It’s fantastic that you’ve already started implementing some of the suggestions from the course and you’ve had some success. Going from only falling asleep in your arms to falling asleep in the cot with patting and shushing is a big step forward.
Based on what you’ve described, it sounds like your little one might be going through the 4-month regression. As you may remember from the course, this can happen anywhere from 3 to 5 months of age. It’s when their sleep patterns mature and they start cycling through 4 sleep stages instead of 2.
As a result of this change, you often see:
- More frequent night wakings
- Shorter naps – which explains why he used to do 1.5-2 hour contact naps but now consistently wakes after around 45 minutes and is difficult to resettle
The key to improving his night sleep, extending his naps, and encouraging a later morning wake time is helping him learn to settle to sleep independently which you’re already working towards, which is fantastic! To help you with this goal I just have a few questions:
Regarding wake times and schedules:
- You mentioned his wake windows are around an hour long. Have you noticed them starting to extend at all, or are they consistently 45 minutes to an hour?
- Outside of those early morning wakes, does he have a fairly consistent wake-up time?
- Are you following a wake-feed-play-sleep cycle during the day?
- Can you describe what your nap routine and bedtime routine look like?
Regarding night wakings:
- When he stirs overnight, can you walk me through what happens? Does he stir, then cry, then you go in? What do you do when you get there?
- Are you able to follow the wake, feed, sleep routine?
- What’s his sleep environment like – is it cool, dark, and quiet?
A note on wake times:
The tricky thing about achieving a 7-7:30am wake time is that with a bedtime between 6-7pm, you’d need him to sleep 12-13 hours overnight. That’s a lot to ask of a baby at this age! Most babies this age sleep somewhere between 10-12 hours overnight.
So if you’d like a 7am wake time, you’d ideally want bedtime to be no earlier than 7pm. Any earlier and it becomes quite difficult to achieve.
It’s also worth knowing that babies are naturally early risers – it’s just their biology! A wake time somewhere between 6-7am is very normal and may be a more realistic expectation for your little one.
A note on short naps:
If he is going through the 4-month regression, short naps of 30-45 minutes are completely normal at this age. This tends to continue until they’re able to consolidate naps, which generally happens around 5-6 months of age – once they know how to settle themselves to sleep.
Sorry for all the questions.
Emma
-
Hi Pav,
That’s so exciting that he’s starting to say words!
When toddlers begin talking, their behaviour often improves because they can communicate what they need instead of getting frustrated. And over the last few weeks, he would have been getting used to staying awake for longer stretches. So it makes perfect sense that his mood has been a lot better lately!
As for what to do when he has a short nap, hopefully it won’t happen too often, but when it does, try to keep bedtime between 7:00 and 7:30pm. If he’s really tired and upset, it’s absolutely fine to move bedtime earlier on those one-off days.
Emma
-
Hi Pav,
It sounds like he did really well, even when he only had a 1.5 hour nap.
Just let me know how you go after a week and we’ll see if anything else needs tweaking.
Emma
-
Hi Pav,
It’s great to hear he’s taking a solid 2-hour nap each day!
To answer your questions:
- Yes, this grumpiness is completely expected and should settle down once he adjusts to the longer wake windows.
- If he’s particularly grumpy in the afternoon, you can try putting him down at 7pm. However, when you did this before, he still didn’t fall asleep until just after 8pm, so if that happens again, I’d stick with the original bedtime.
Thanks for sending through Rohan’s updated sleep record for the week. I had a look through it and noticed that when he wakes early from his nap (only sleeping 1.5 hours), he tends to wake during the night. When he naps for 2 hours, he sleeps through. Since he’s generally getting that full 2-hour nap, I’d recommend keeping with the current schedule.
One small adjustment you could try: based on his records, he’s tending to fall asleep between 7:30-8pm most nights. So rather than laying him down at 7:15pm and having him take 45 minutes to fall asleep, you could try putting him down at 7:30pm instead. This might reduce the time he spends lying awake before sleep.
Something else that can help (if you’re not already doing this) is dimming the lights and closing the blinds about an hour before bedtime. This signals to his brain that sleep is coming by encouraging the release of melatonin, which helps him feel drowsy and ready for bed.
I’d also like to see if he starts waking up on his own after another week. If he’s still needing to be woken at 7am, we might need to adjust his schedule a little more.
Does this make sense?
Emma -
Emma H
AdministratorJanuary 30, 2026 at 11:15 pm in reply to: 4th month regression + 3rd month BF crisis: help with naps and wake timeHi Laura,
Thanks for sending this through! Your little one’s routine looks pretty good.
One thing I noticed is that the amount of daytime sleep she’s getting might mean she doesn’t need as much sleep overnight. To help encourage her to drop a daytime nap (and therefore need more sleep at night), you could try extending that first wake window a bit to push the first nap back to around 9am. This would mean the first nap ends around 10:30am, which pushes all her other naps back too and might naturally result in her dropping one of them.
The other thing that will help improve both overnight and daytime sleep is helping her learn how to fall asleep independently. I know you’re currently in the thick of that 4-month regression, but if you’d like some guidance on this, just let me know:
Emma
-
Hey Pav,
If you’re happy to continue with the current schedule for a week and just note down the time Rohan is falling asleep at bedtime, that would be great!
After a week, we can take a look at the pattern. If he’s consistently falling asleep around 7:45pm or a bit later, we can then shift the time you’re laying him down from 7:15pm to 7:30pm.
Does that make sense?
Emma
-
Hi Pav!
No worries at all about the questions – that’s what I’m here for!
Based on what you’ve described, it does sound like Rohan’s body clock is naturally set to fall asleep around 7:30pm, regardless of when you put him down. That hour of babbling and rolling around before sleep tells us he simply wasn’t tired enough yet at 6:45pm.
So yes, I would only bring bedtime earlier if he’s showing clear signs of tiredness in the late afternoon. If he’s happy and energetic like he was yesterday, then aim for his usual bedtime.
Regarding Rohan’s bedtime, I recommend you aim to have him in his cot by 7:15pm, with the goal of him falling asleep around 7:30pm. I expect that after a week of having a consistent wake-up time, set nap time, he will start to fall asleep closer to 7:30pm more consistently.
Does that make sense?
Emma
-
Emma H
AdministratorJanuary 26, 2026 at 11:27 pm in reply to: Early morning rising and short nap helpHi Annie,
Thanks so much for getting back to me with all those details. It really helps me get a clearer picture of what’s going on!
It sounds like you’re doing a fantastic job, and it’s great to hear that the bedtime routine is working well. Bedtime often clicks into place first because your little one has both sleep pressure and the circadian rhythm working together, so that’s a really positive sign!
I’ve got a few thoughts that might help things along:
Regarding the early morning wake ups
If he wakes at 5am, you feed him, and by the time he’s settled back to sleep it’s around 6am, here’s what I’d suggest: over the next week, track what time he naturally wakes up. This will help you identify his natural wake window, whether it tends to fall between 6 and 6:30am or 6:30 and 7am.
Once you know his pattern, you can adjust accordingly. So if his natural wake time is between 6:30 and 7am, and he falls back asleep at 6am after that early feed, you could let him sleep until 7am. But if his natural wake time is closer to 6 and 6:30am, I’d wake him around 6:30am rather than letting him sleep much longer past that.
The goal is to narrow down his wake up window to about half an hour rather than a full hour, as that consistency really helps regulate his body clock.
Regarding the feeds before naps
At 3.5 months, he doesn’t technically need two feeds within a wake window unless there’s a medical reason for it or you need to do it to maintain milk supply as well. But if that isn’t the case, and you’re open to it, you could try dropping that second feed before the nap and just doing one feed at the start of each wake window.
There are a couple of reasons this might help. First, when babies feed close to sleep time, even with separation, it can sometimes result in shorter naps because they’re not quite as tired. Second, spacing the feeds out a bit more means he’s more likely to be properly hungry and take a fuller feed each time, which can actually help reduce those overnight wake ups because he’s getting more of his calories during the day.
That said, if you’d prefer to keep the second feed, that’s absolutely fine too!
Regarding the settling pyramid during the day
It makes complete sense that it’s trickier during the day. Naps really are harder because you’re relying on sleep pressure alone without the help of the circadian rhythm.
I’d suggest focusing on using the settling pyramid for that first nap of the day, as this is usually the easiest one for babies to fall asleep for. For the later naps, if you’ve been trying for about 20 minutes and he’s not settling, or you’ve worked your way up the pyramid and you’re exhausted, it’s completely okay to settle him in your arms.
My only suggestion when you do settle him in your arms is to gradually reduce the movement and noise before he falls asleep. So you might start by rocking and patting, then stop the rocking but keep patting, then stop the patting and just hold him still, so he falls asleep while you’re completely still. This helps him learn to fall asleep without movement, which will make transitioning to the settling pyramid easier over time.
Regarding wake windows
Those wake windows of 90 to 120 minutes sound about right for his age. One thing to keep an eye on is how long it actually takes him to fall asleep. If you’re putting him down after 90 minutes and it’s taking 30 minutes to settle him, that suggests his wake window might actually be closer to 2 hours. Just track when he actually falls asleep over the next week and see if a pattern emerges. That will tell you what wake windows work best for him.
Regarding overnight feeds
Learning to fall asleep on his own in the crib is actually the key to him eventually dropping those overnight feeds. What typically happens is once babies learn that skill, they’ll naturally drop the earlier feeds first (11pm-12am), and then the later feeds gradually reduce too.
Since he’s breastfed, it’s completely normal for him to still need 2 to 3 feeds overnight at this age. I know he was previously only waking once a night, but I do think once he learns this skill, those feeds will just start dropping off.
One thing I’m wondering about is what happens after the feed. At the moment, you’re rocking him for 15 minutes until he’s in a deep sleep before putting him down. What would happen if you just put him down once he falls asleep at the breast, without the rocking?
Also, if you’re burping him after the feed, it might be worth trying to skip that step and see if it makes a difference. When you burp them, it can wake them up and then you have to settle them back to sleep again. So if you’re happy to give it a go, it could be one less thing that’s disrupting his sleep.
Does this sound doable?
Emma
-
Hi Pav,
Thanks so much for sending through the record you have kept for the last week. It was really helpful.
Looking at the pattern, when he wakes from his nap around 2pm, he tends to fall asleep closer to 7:30pm. But when he wakes later, especially closer to 3pm, bedtime naturally pushes later too.
I’ve also noticed the routine is quite variable at the moment, which is really common! It’s also not unusual for little ones to start protesting at bedtime as they get older and develop more awareness of their independence.
The good news is that even though he’s taking a while to fall asleep, you’ve mentioned he’s not distressed, he’s just hanging out in bed. This tells me he’s likely not quite tired enough to drift off yet, rather than being overtired.
Based on your records, it looks like he needs a wake window of around 5 to 5.5 hours before bed to be ready for sleep. It also looks like that his preferred wake-up time really is anywhere from 6:30 to 7:00 a.m.
What I’m wondering is if you’re willing to try the routine below, just to see if that helps improve bedtime? Basically I’m just tightening up the routine and seeing if that improves it.
- Wake time: Aim for between 6:30 and 7am. If he’s still asleep at 7am, wake him.
- Nap time: Aim for 12pm – 2pm nap. We want his nap to start at 12 p.m, so you might need to put him in his crib a few minutes before 12pm so that he falls asleep at 12pm. Generally, he falls asleep really quickly for this daytime nap, no matter what time it is, so let’s stick with 12 p.m. Then wake him up from his nap by 2 p.m at the latest. This means that he will have a two-hour nap, which seems to be what he needs right now.
- Bedtime: Aim for him to be asleep by 7:30pm. So you might start his bedtime routine around 7pm and lay him in his crib at around 7:15pm to give him time to wind down and fall asleep.
Would you be happy to give this routine a try for a week?
Emma